SPIRITUAL ROAD MAPS

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It's the Karen Kenney Show. Hey, you guys!

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Welcome to the Karen Kenney Show. I'm wicked excited to be

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here with you today. And today we're gonna go on a little

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journey. So I'm gonna call this sucka spiritual roadmaps. I

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don't know if it's the best title. I just have to pull these

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things kind of out of my ass, and I know I always laugh

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because I'm sure marketing people out there would be like,

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you should pick better titles. You should search what your

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quote-unquote ideal client or avatars are searching, and then

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take those keywords and put them in the titles. And you guys, I

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just I can't. I'm just not. This is not how my brain works. I'm

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kind of sometimes a literal person. It's like I'm the kind

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of person that if I see a title that piques my curiosity, I'm

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gonna go check it out. So I'm not super fancy. I'm just like,

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okay, we're gonna call this spiritual roadmaps. So hopefully

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enough of you are gonna be curious enough to give this

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sucker a listen, and here we are, and I'm back. Okay, so

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speaking of a road map, back in 1998, I was still living in

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California, and for a wicked long time, most of the time that

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I lived in LA and Los Angeles, I did not have a car. So I either

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took the bus, or my friends would pick me up and give me a

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ride to work, or whatever, right? But if you can imagine

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taking the bus for like six years, over six years in in LA

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was like a trip. But I eventually was able to get a

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car. I got a trusty old Toyota, as usual. It's all I've ever

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owned. I had a Toyota Forerunner, by far my favorite

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vehicle I've ever owned, and I was at this point in 1998

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getting ready to move back east. So I had to get my ass from

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Burbank, California, to Concord, New Hampshire. Like that was the

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thing. So I had met somebody and had fallen in love, and I was

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moving. I was leaving California to come back east, and I was

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going to be living in New Hampshire for the first time

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ever. And so back in the day, it was like when you drove cross

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country. Like you got to remember, 1998, there weren't

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cell phones, like at least you know regular cell phones, and

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there was not. There was no GPS. There was none of that stuff, so

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we did everything you guys by Papa Maps, if you can believe

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it. We had to navigate by Paper Maps, and what was wicked cool

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is that AAA. Like if you went into a AAA office, you could get

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these wicked cool things called triptychs. Now double A men

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hands, if you guys have ever had and used a triptych? Okay, so I

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am currently I have been a member of AAA for 31 years. AAA

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for me is just like a little peace of mind in my back pocket.

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I just get to go like, if God forbid I break down traveling

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somewhere, I can just call those guys and somebody's going to

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come and they're gonna help, you know, fix my flat or put the put

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the thing on or tow my car or get me the safety, right? So I

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was a AAA member. I knew I was doing this wicked long trip, and

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I went to go see them, and so it was gonna be like something like

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202,962 miles. This is like 44 hours of driving, and the cool

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thing about triptychs back in the day is you would go in, and

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this is all going to make sense in how it applies to your life.

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So please, just stay curious, stay like buckle up, buckle up

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for safety. Stay with me here. It's all going to make sense in

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a minute. So you would go into the office, and a AAA travel

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agent would literally print out your starting point, so you

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would basically go to them and you'd say, "I'm here right now,

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and I want to get here. I want to go over here, right?

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And you'd go into their office, and they would print out these

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really cool little spiral-bound maps, and it would be a

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continuous map from where you are all the way across the

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country or wherever you were going, and they would either

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bind them either on the top or the side, and then the travel

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agent would literally sit with you and they would take a

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highlighter and they would highlight by hand. They would

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draw by hand right that highlight line from the route to

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your beginning address to your final destination address. It

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was wild, and it was specific directions that were mapped out

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mile by mile by mile just for you. It was like a custom

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itinerary. It was so cool, and then they would also put in like

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points of interest. They would put in rest stops sometimes

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where you could find places to eat or bathrooms or whatever. It

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was so cool, and they'd be like, "Hey, when you're passing

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through here, you might want to go see the Grand Canyon. Hey,

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when you're passing by here, this is where the world's

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largest ball of twine or whatever it is, right? And you

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would want to go see these specific points. So it was so

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cool, and I. I was just thinking about this recently, and I was

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thinking about how coaching and spiritual mentoring-being a life

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coach, being a spiritual mentor, being a guide, whatever we want

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to call that that particular job, which is part of what I do

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in life. Whether you're a yoga teacher, anybody who's really

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teaching and leading other peoples, but usually with

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coaches and mentees in particular, it's very very

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similar to personal triptychs. They are literally like to me.

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What I'm doing as a spiritual menta is helping to route,

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helping people to find their way on their own spiritual like

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journey, on their own spiritual roadmap, and that's what a good

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coach or a mentor does is we help you with your roadmap. So

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sometimes people will come to you, you know, and they'll and

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you'll be like, okay, so you know we can use different

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language for it. But let's say they're suffering. Let's say

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there's a problem or a situation situation or a a particular

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mindset or a particular belief or story. I always talk in

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stories-a story that they're telling themselves. And this is

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what it usually is. They'll say, "I'm here, and but they don't

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want to be there anymore for whatever reason. They're like,

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"I'm so sick of feeling this way. I'm so sick of thinking

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this way. I'm so sick of picking the wrong people. I'm so tired

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of not writing the book or not getting it done, like whatever

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kind of coach you are, right? And they'll say, "Okay, how do

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you want to feel instead? Where do you want to be instead?

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What's the vision you have for yourself? What's the goal? Where

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do you want to be? And it's like, "I'm here. I'm holding up

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my hand right over here on the left, and it's like, and I want

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to be here. And there's a gap in between those places, and that

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gap is usually the spiritual roadmap. It's the personal

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development roadmap, right? It's like, okay, this is this is the

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journey, as they would say. Like so many, so many coaches of

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coaches, they'll say things to you like when you're first

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starting out, right? So you're a person. is on Suffer Island over

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here, and they want to be on like Happy Island over here, and

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you are the thing that gets them from point A to point B. And I'd

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always be like, no, no, no, no, no. Like even that language

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never resonated with me. I'm like, I'm not the thing that

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gets them from point A to point B. They're the thing that gets

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them from point A to point B. My job is I'm going to help you map

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it out. I'm going to hopefully give you some helpful tools and

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resources that you can use, like that map. Right? I might talk

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you through some of the tough parts, right? So that's what a

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good coach will do. They'll say, "Okay, this is where you are.

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You're anxious. You're this. You're that. Here are some

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tools, right, to help maybe regulate, right? And I, I'm, I'm

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very, I'm very.

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I always say, I, I think we've been sold this bill of goods

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that we have to have like a regulated nervous system all the

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time, which for me is like impossible. I think I talked

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about this last week. What I what I like to help people to do

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is to have a more resourceful nervous system, a more resilient

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nervous system, a nervous system that can respond to life, right?

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And yeah, sometimes you're going to feel really regulated and

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great, but a lot of times we're gonna we're gonna jump out of

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like our happy space, our nice calm regulated space because

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life happens and shit happens, and you get anxious or you get

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nervous, you get depressed, you get whatever. For me, a healthy

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nervous system a lot is one that can come back to that state, but

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it doesn't mean you just stay in it all the time, like blissful.

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That that to me is just not realistic. So what a good coach

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can do is say, okay, we're here. Here are some tools to help you

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do X, Y, and Z, right? To maybe bring you out of a you know like

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fight and flight, out of the fear state, back to a state

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where your prefrontal cortex can come back online, where your

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creative thinking and your problem solving can happen, and

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you can make a choice from a place of love, from a place of

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more calm and ease, so that you're not out of your mind when

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you're making decisions. Right, and here are some steps you can

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take. Here are some tools and some resources. Here are some

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books you can read. Here's what my lived experience has been. If

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any part of my story helps, right? Here's a part of it. Or

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tell me more about your story. Let's look at these patterns and

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these habits. Whatever you're getting, the gist of what I'm

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saying, right? So we can kind of map things out. We can give

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resources, and we can say, hey, if you're over here, right,

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point A, right, and you want to get to this other place, here

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are some things that you can do. Here are the things that you can

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follow. Whether you want to call them steps, whether you want to

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call them putting tools in the toolkit, what whatever it is,

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systems you want to put some systems in place. You want to

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build better habits. You want to change the identity. You want to

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rewire the subconscious. You want to you. Know put in

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whatever tools you're using, right? That's what a good coach

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can do. But what we cannot do, just like AAA, triple A was

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like, hey, you're taking this trip. Here's your little

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triptych. Here's some places where you might need to stop and

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rest, right? And that's what I always say that a good spiritual

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mentor or a good coach does is we will often say like hey

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here's some places where you might need to take a little nap

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here's where you might need to take a little rest it's almost

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like a sherpa who has traveled the mountain before you and has

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found some places has found some tools is like hey when you're

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packing your bag you might want to throw this in there, and hey,

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when you get wicked tired, you might want to rest. Or hey, this

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is going to be the point on the trip when you're probably going

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to want to give up. It's going to be like probably right before

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the good stuff is going to happen, and you're going to

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think like, oh, I can't do it. I can't change. It's not going to

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happen. Da da da da da. So we're very similar, right, to that AAA

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agent, like giving you a. I think of it as like a spiritual

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triptych. You know what I mean? It's like we're gonna try and

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help you to get from point A to point B. But the thing that we

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can't do, just like the AAA agent can't do, is get in the

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car with you and drive. We cannot do the driving for you.

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You know what I mean. And I think of it like this: It's

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like, yeah, you know, if you're somebody who does spiritual

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mentoring or coaching, you get coaching in person, right? Like

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I think about my friend Walter Norton Jr.

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who I'm actually wearing one of their shirts, the Institute of

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Performance and fitness, they're in North Reading, Massachusetts.

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So if you're trying to get stronger for your particular

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sport, or you're just an adult athlete and trying to like you

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know stay strong, keep muscle in your body, move, be

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cardiovascularly strong, stay healthy, have a better mindset,

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all that stuff, right? Yeah, you can go into the gym, and Walt is

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going to be in the gym with you, and he's going to be doing some

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demonstrations, and he's going to be showing you, hey, if you

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want to get from point A to point B, this is the shit you

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need to do. But what he's not going to do for you, he's not

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going to lift the weights for you. He's not going to eat the

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good breakfast for you. He's not going to be like in bed making

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with you, making sure you're getting enough rest, or that

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you're checking your shitty attitude at the door, or

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whatever. He can't do that for you, and I can't do that for you

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either. And neither can the people around you, whether it's

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a therapist or a coach or a mentor or a priest or your

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family members or whatever. We can accompany you. I always say

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I can accompany you. I might be able to take part of the ride

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with you. I can walk along beside you. I can maybe even

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hold your hand when things get tough. You know, you can call

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us. I always say you can call me. Like if you get a flat tire,

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you know, quote unquote flat tire, you can call me if you're

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at a rest stop and you're exhausted and you're like, I

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need a little guidance. You're feeling down in the dumps. You

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need a little pep talk. You need a little support. A little

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cheerleading. I'm, I'm, I'm your person. I can do that, but I

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cannot drive for you. I cannot. Jesus, take the wheel, right?

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Even Jesus, like we say, Jesus, take the wheel. Like we jokingly

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laugh, right? But like on this trip, you've got to take the

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wheel. And one of the things is is that I often will say to to

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people, you know, and whether that's whether that's in yoga,

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whether that's been in like helping people with writing or

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speaking, or you know, helping people with spiritual mentoring,

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coaching, whatever, et cetera, et cetera, in the nest,

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whatever. At some point, I have said to people, you know, again

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and again, I can't want this more than you do. It makes no

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sense for me to want the destination or the desired

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outcome more than you do. You have got to want it, and what I

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have discovered over many, many, many years of doing this work,

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and I've talked about this before, but it bears repeating,

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is that so many people want change. They want the new

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outcome. They want the new feeling. They want the new

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experience. They want to have more money. They want to have

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more joy. They want to have better health. They want to have

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deeper, intimate relationships. They want to have fill in the

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blank. I want. I want. I want. But a lot of times, what people

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don't want, they want change, but they don't want to change.

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And a lot of times, people think, "Well, if I read the

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book, reading a book is fucking amazing. Don't get me wrong, but

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what a lot of people tend to do when they go to work with

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coaches or they go to work with people is that they like to

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gather a ton of information. They're excellent, especially

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the super smart ones. The people who love to intellectualize,

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right? They don't like to feel too much. They like to think a

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lot, and they like to rationalize, and they like to

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intellectualize, and they like to talk it out. They like to

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talk about things. What a lot of times they don't like to do is

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feel things. And a lot of times, what all kinds of people, right?

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I call it an application of the theory problem. They have all

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the information. They apply. They they like they gather it.

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They got the books. They read the podcast. They signed up for

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the courses. They watched the videos. They journaled the

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things down.

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What they haven't done is take action. They haven't gotten in

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the car, gotten the damn triptych, and actually applied

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that shit. You know, and that's the thing. One of the cool

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things about a Course in Miracles, no matter what people

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think about it, right? It's not a religion. It's it's like kind

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of think of it as like spiritual psychotherapy. But one of the

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things I always thought was so fascinating about a course in

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miracles over 35 years of being in relationship with this

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material is that in the beginning, the first half, the

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first section of the book is like the text, and this is like

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the the theological. It's like the the theoretical principles.

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It kind of lays out all these thoughts and ideas, but the

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middle of it is the workbook. There's 365 daily lessons, and

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the workbook is the practical application of the spiritual

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theories, right, that have been laid forth in the text. And so

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many people will say shit to me like, "Oh, I did a course in

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miracles, and I'm like, "Oh, did you? Did you? I'm like, "You

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might have read it, but did you apply it? Did you actually apply

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the daily workbook lessons to your life? Because you can't do

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this kind of work, Course and Miracles or otherwise. You

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cannot read all the books and listen to the podcast and do all

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this. In in if you apply it, change is probably going to

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happen. It more than likely, right? You, you, you. Maybe it

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won't get you to point B to your full destination, but it's going

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to get you like most of the way or part of the way. But you've

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got to be the one who takes the triptych, who takes the

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resources, who takes the information, and then does

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something with it. And I understand you guys. I

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understand we bump up against so much resistance. Some people

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might call it procrastination. Some people might call it fear.

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To me, resistance is fear. Like I totally get it. I have bumped

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up against so much resistance in my life, I I cannot tell you

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like double amen hands. I get it. I feel it. I've been there.

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Sometimes I still find myself there, and then I literally have

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to like I jokingly say I got to Goggins myself, right? I got to

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be like, doesn't matter that you don't feel like it right now.

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You made a commitment. You got to keep your word to yourself,

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or you got to keep your word to that person or whatever it is,

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but here's wicked good news, you guys. And the next, I don't know

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if it's going to be the next episode or two episodes after

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that. I'm having a guest on my show. It's rare, you guys know.

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It's rare that I have guests on one, like a few times a year.

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This is a guest that was. I have this list of people I would love

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to talk to and have on the show, and this is a fellow writer.

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This is an author who I love, and he is what I would call one

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of the the great. I don't even know if I. He is like to me when

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I think of resistance. He is the number one person that comes to

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mind, and helping people to break through resistance. I

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cannot wait. I cannot wait for you guys. Oh my God! I can't

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wait. I can't wait to do the interview. Never mind. So I'm

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wicked excited to talk to him. I'm I'm kind of like teasing,

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like, oh, should I say who it is? Should I say who it is? Oh

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my God, you guys! I don't think I'm going to tell you just yet.

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We'll see. But it's like buckle up for safety and stay tuned. So

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if you're somebody who who who bumps up against resistance,

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whether it's in setting goals or taking action or doing the damn

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thing or writing the book or starting the whatever it is, my

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guest is going to be able to help you with that, so stay

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tuned for that. But this is what I want to say, you guys. So

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often we have this idea, like I'm here and I'm stuck here, and

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there is so much help out there. But you have got to, you know.

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There's that old Joe. I think it's Joe Lewis quote.

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I've talked about it before, and Joe Lewis says, you know, like I

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can teach you. He's a boxer. He's a fighter, and he's like, I

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can teach you all of like the moves. I can teach you the

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punches. I can teach you all of that. And he's like, but I can't

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make you a fighter. That has to come from inside of you. And

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it's true, you know. And I know, like for a lot of community. For

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a lot of people, they don't feel resourced enough. They don't

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feel like that they can, you know, that old kind of American

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adage of like pull yourself up by the bootstraps. Well, some

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people don't have straps and some people don't have boots.

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You know what I mean? So a lot of us do start in different

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places with more privilege or more resources, more money, more

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help, more support economically, you know, financially,

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familialy, like your family. You have people around you who care

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about you. Whatever, I get all that, but this is something

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where, like, I really feel like this is why I said I've always

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loved libraries because I think libraries even out the playing

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field for poor kids, for underprivileged, for people who

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maybe have not gotten an education, does not have the

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resources or the know-how how to help themselves, and this is

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why, to me, librarians are some of the greatest champions that

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we have on the planet. But for those of you who are out there

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and you are like trying to do the personal development work or

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the spiritual work, and all the people who are quote unquote

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doing the work. The work actually takes work, and like I

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said, you can hire all the people you want. You can go to

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therapy all you want. You can get the coach. You can whatever.

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You can hire the personal trainer, but the personal

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trainer is not going to lift the weights for you. The coach is

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not gonna do do the like you know I can't come to your house

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and make you do the homework that you get or I can't make you

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apply the tool when you're being anxious you know and a lot of

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times we hold on to those old patterns we hold on to those old

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behaviors we hold on to those old ways of thinking. We hold on

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to those old stories, and we refuse to give up the stories.

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Like I always say, we want to move from our story to our

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glory. You know, we want to move from that old way of thinking

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that limits us and keeps us stuck, so that we can move into

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the fullness, the wholeness, the truth. You know, that capital S

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self that we really are, and whoever is helping you, whoever

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is working with you, whoever is walking along beside you, cannot

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make you do it. They cannot make you want it. You have got to

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want it, and you got to take your triptych and you got to

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apply it. You got to get in the car. You got to start the car,

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and you got to put your foot on the gas, you know. And like I

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always say, like you know, I offer these things called hot to

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hot days because not everybody, you know, wants to jump right

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into like four months of one to one coaching, right? So that's

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my program, the Nest. I mean, the Quest, right? So not

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everybody wants to jump into that, but I do these things

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called hot to hot days, where it's like I call it like having

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a coach in your pocket for like one day. So you choose either

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like three hours or six hours. It's like a half day, more than

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a half day, where we just over the boxer app. It's like a voice

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messaging app. We go back and forth. It's not like nonstop,

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right? This you could take a break, take your dog for a walk,

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take a shower, eat some snacks, whatever. You know, use the

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bathroom, whatever. But we're there to like work out whatever

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it is that's on your mind or on your heart.

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And you know how those days when you just need a good hat to

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heart, you just need somebody to listen or to maybe help you look

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at something from a different perspective or just get you know

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somebody have somebody you trust to help you work through a

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thing, and sometimes you don't even know exactly what the thing

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is. You just know something's off, or something's wrong, or

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you're in a funk or whatever. And so you know I do these

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things called called hot to hot days, and that's the thing. It's

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like somebody can walk along beside you, like even on a hot

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to hot day, and be with you. I can be with you for part of the

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way, but whatever I'm going to say to you, or whatever tools or

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resources I might offer up, I can't make you use them. And I

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think this is the thing that we often see. And unfortunately,

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you know, we have a part of us. There's often a part of us that

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maybe some people call it like the saboteur. It's like that

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part of you that sabotages, but sometimes like that part of us

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thinks that it's actually protecting us. It's like, well,

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we can't do that because because what is maybe more healthy or

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what is maybe more compassionate or kind, or what is more loving,

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or maybe the thing is setting a boundary, even though it might

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be you know again quote unquote better for us, it's unfamiliar.

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Saying no to people, putting boundaries in place, going to

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the gym, or starting to write that first paragraph, our first

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sentence of your novel, or your book, or your memoir, or you

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know, trying something new. You know, a lot of times for people,

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the thing that would be safe, safety doesn't always feel safe

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when it's unfamiliar to you. You know, it's like people all say,

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like, "Oh, I want to." I want to be, you know, a part of

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something, and then they get around other people who see them

Karen Kenney: 00:25:04

and love them, and their just nervous system go freaks out.

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It's like it doesn't know how to be around people who are saying

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nice things or kind things or supportive things or you know

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unshaming things, even though what we really need is an

Karen Kenney: 00:25:17

unshaming witness. We're like, this is weird. What's their

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agenda? What do they want? Right, like we have a trust

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problem. So, I get it, I get it. But I just thought that this was

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an interesting correlation of how, like you know, AAA, like

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we'll say, like I'm gonna draw, I'm gonna highlight this sucker

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for you. I'm gonna, I'm gonna show you. You want to get from

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point A to point B. Here's how you do it, and I think that's

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what good coaches and good mentors do as well. You have a

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goal. You have a desired outcome. You have a

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transformation that you're that you're hoping to get, and you've

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got to be you've got to be really present and really active

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and really willing and really curious. And look, you're gonna

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feel like you took two steps forward, a step back. You're

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gonna hit a wall. You might get discouraged, but the thing is,

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is we gotta keep going. We gotta keep moving forward. We take

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periods when we rest. Absolutely, that's the thing. I

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always say you don't have to. You don't have like nobody can

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do the work for you, but you do not. You do not have to do it

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alone, and that's what we do in the Nest. The Nest is my

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spiritual group and community, my coaching group and community,

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where the Nesties we call them the Nesties, right? All get

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together, and it's a great supported, supportive community.

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Wicked nice people. I just adore them. I love them. And you guys,

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in anything I talk about whether it's hot to hot days or the nest

Karen Kenney: 00:26:42

or the quest or right club, like anything I do. Yoga classes,

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Thai yoga, you know, body work, tayoga massage. You can find it

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all on my website. Just go to karenkenney.com, and if you want

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to get the podcast into your inbox every Thursday morning, or

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you want to know what kind of shenanigans or workshops I have

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We have a write club coming up this Saturday, august 15 in

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Concord, New Hampshire at the 11th letter at the 11th letter

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right into your inbox, just go to karenkenney.com/sign up, and

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that's where you can find it. So you guys, I hope this was

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helpful in some way. I'm just kind of like I like to sometimes

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when I have a thought where I draw a parallel and I'm like, oh

Karen Kenney: 00:27:27

my god, that makes me think of that. I wanted to share it with

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you. And if you're somebody like I said who's looking for some

Karen Kenney: 00:27:33

coaching or some mentoring, even if it's not with me, just make

Karen Kenney: 00:27:36

sure you do your homework. Make sure you find out you know a

Karen Kenney: 00:27:39

little bit more about who this person is. Maybe get a personal

Karen Kenney: 00:27:42

referral or personal recommendation. I always love

Karen Kenney: 00:27:46

when I get those. I always love when somebody that I know or

Karen Kenney: 00:27:49

have worked with or love sends me somebody that they love into

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my care, and then I pledge to do my best to try to be helpful.

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But just just make sure like do your homework and find out so

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you're not just giving your money away to a knucklehead or

Karen Kenney: 00:28:03

somebody who's not really going to have you back. You know what

Karen Kenney: 00:28:05

I mean? All right, you guys. Thank you for tuning in. Thank

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you for being here. I hope you have a fantastic rest of your

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week. Whenever you're listening to this, and wherever you go,

Karen Kenney: 00:28:13

may you leave yourself and the animals and the other people and

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the places and the environment better than how you first found

Karen Kenney: 00:28:21

it. Wherever you go, may you and your presence and your love and

Karen Kenney: 00:28:26

your attitude and your energy may be a blessing. Bye. Hey,

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thanks so much for listening to the show. I really love spending

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some time together. Now, if you dig the show or know someone

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