Episode 319

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19th Jun 2025

ASKING FOR HELP

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, we’re discussing something that so many people struggle with - Asking for help.

I'm sharing a powerful passage from Marcus Aurelius' "Meditations" that totally changed my perspective.

He basically wrote that we shouldn’t be ashamed to need support - just like a soldier who's been wounded might need a comrade to lend a helping hand.

Growing up in a blue-collar family, I learned early on that asking for help seemed like weakness.

But here's a truth: We're not born knowing how to do every single thing! 

Remember when we were babies and little kids? We needed help with EVERYTHING - from tying our shoes to brushing our teeth to making a sandwich!

So why do we suddenly think that we should know how to handle all of life's complex challenges all by ourselves?

I share how trauma and tough upbringings can make us behave in hyper-independent ways – where we hate to ask for ask and definitely don’t want to feel like we’re “bothering” people.

We can also develop this kind of shield that says, "I've got this," when sometimes, we really don't. 🫣

But here's a shift in perspective that’s a game-changer: Seeking help isn't a failure, it's a superpower.

It takes courage to be vulnerable and admit you need support, whether that's from a mentor, a coach, a book, or a trusted friend.

This is an invitation to release the shame, embrace curiosity, and recognize that nobody comes with a complete life manual.

And a final reminder that AI/Technology can't give you a hug -or- truly understand your journey - only people can provide that kind of deep, transformative connection.

So, I encourage you to raise your hand, ask the question, make the phone call, and know that needing help doesn't make you weak - it makes you wonderfully human!

  

KK’S KEY TAKEAWAYS:

• Asking for help is a sign of strength, not weakness.

• We forget we were born completely dependent and kind of helpless.

• Trauma can create hyper-independence that prevents us from seeking support.

• No one is expected to automatically know everything in life.

• Human connection and intimacy heal way more than just pure information.

• Mentors and coaches can provide transformative guidance beyond simple advice.

• Vulnerability takes courage and can open doors to personal growth.

• Shame around needing or wanting help prevents us from accessing necessary resources.

• Technology and AI can’t replace the depth of human emotion and understanding.

• Curiosity and willingness to learn are much more important than perfection.

• Seeking help also allows others the joy of supporting you!

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BIO:

Karen Kenney is a certified Spiritual Mentor, Writer, Integrative Change Worker, Coach and Hypnotist. She’s known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent, and her no-BS, down-to-earth approach to Spirituality and transformational work. 

KK is a wicked curious human being, a life-long learner, and has been an entrepreneur for over 20 years! She’s also a yoga teacher of 24+ years, a Certified Gateless Writing Instructor, and an author, speaker, retreat leader, and the host of The Karen Kenney Show podcast.

She coaches both the conscious + unconscious mind using practical Neuroscience, Subconscious Reprogramming, Integrative Hypnosis/Change Work, and Spiritual Mentorship. These tools help clients to regulate their nervous systems, remove blocks, rewrite stories, rewire beliefs, and reimagine what’s possible in their lives and business!

Karen encourages people to deepen their connection to Self, Source and Spirit in down-to-earth and actionable ways and wants them to have their own lived experience with spirituality and to not just “take her word for it”.

She helps people to shift their minds from fear to Love - using compassion, storytelling and humor. Her work is effective, efficient, memorable, and fun

KK’s been a student of A Course in Miracles for close to 30 years, has been vegan for over 20 years, and believes that a little kindness can make a big difference.

KK WEBSITE: www.karenkenney.com

Transcript
Karen Kenney:

Hey, welcome to the Karen Kenney show. I am

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super duper excited to be here with you today. Thank you so

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much for tuning in. If it's your first time here. Hi. Welcome so

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happy to have you. If you have been with me a few times, if you

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wait, that sounded good. If you if you've been around the block

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with me a few times, I'm waggling my eyebrows at you. Oh

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my god, thank you for coming back. I super appreciate you

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loyal listeners. I couldn't do it without you. So in my hand

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I'm holding up this book. It's called meditations, by Marcus

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Aurelius, and this is the translation by Gregory Hayes,

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this is such a fantastic book. So some of you may know this

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about me, that I am a writer. I am a storyteller. I am a lover

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of books and words and reading and books have absolutely like

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changed my life. And you know, back in the day, way back in the

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day. And I was just talking about this with my friend Tess

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masters. Tess masters also known as the blender girl. Some of you

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might know her as the blender girl, but Tess has a podcast.

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It's fantastic. It's called, it has to be me, and I'm actually

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going to be on her podcast. It's coming out, actually, on the

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same day as this episode. So Thursday, I think June 19, 2025,

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I think that's when it's coming out. So she and I were just like

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talking, I'm gonna, I'm gonna make a point about, first of

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all, the name of this episode, right, asking for help. But she

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and I were kind of talking about how, back in the day before,

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there were like, all these coaches and all these, like

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certified mentors and like all these people that you could hire

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like when you needed support, like back in the day, so much of

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how I helped myself transform, make changes, do stuff is I read

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books like I found so much wisdom, and so many of my

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mentors were like, first and foremost in written form, in

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like, the Self Help section of like, you know, the the crown

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bookstore in California, or borders here, you know, in conk

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and whatever. So back in the day, like I said before, there

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are people like me now who are, like, certified spiritual

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mentors, certified coaches, all these things you had to, you had

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to help yourself, right, like the self there was a reason why

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it was called the Self Help section. And if you wanted to

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make change and stuff, you had to, like, go do the work. Just

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to do the work, meaning, like, you had to get your ass to the

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bookstore to buy the thing. You had to order the cassettes, or

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you had to go to a lecture to meet somebody in person. There

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was no internet. There was no like, dialing it up and like

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hiring people online or whatever. So back in the day,

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like we really had to do it, and a lot of it came through books.

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And this book, Marcus Aurelius meditations, was, like such a

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powerful and potent it still is. That's why I'm like, I reread it

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all the time. I picked this sucker up all the time and thumb

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through it. And I was reading it this morning, and I was like, Oh

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my God, I want to make sure that I talked about this. And then I

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went back, and I tried to check through my episodes, and I'm

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like, How have I never done an episode called asking for help?

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I, for sure, have talked about, you know, talked about asking

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for help, or getting help in, like, certain situations. I

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think I had an episode called, How can I help, or whatever, but

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I don't think I've ever approached it in quite this way.

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But let me read to you what this this passage in meditations,

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Marcus Aurelius. Now this book, this book, the translation by

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Gregory Hayes. It's like bitten, bitten. No, it's not been, it's

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broken, broken down into like 12 different books. That's what

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they're calling them, like 12 little books. And in book seven,

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so it's like 7.7 so Book Seven, entry seven, 7.7 I just read

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this today. I highlighted it here, and I thought it was so

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fantastic. And I want to share with you, because I think it's

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wicked helpful, especially for us, some of us New England kids.

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And it's actually, it's actually fitting that I'm wearing my navy

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mass hole, my navy mass hole t shirt today, because for us

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little mass holes, this is a really wicked helpful reminder.

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It says, Don't be ashamed to need help. Like a soldier

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storming a wall, you have a mission to accomplish, and if

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you've been wounded and you need a comrade to pull you up, so

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what? So what? Don't be ashamed to need help. And I thought this

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was so fantastic when I first read it, and it stopped me in my

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tracks, because I was a kid who, because of my upbringing, and I

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guarantee you somebody else there, if not, many of you out

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there are going to be able to relate to this. So one of the

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things that happens a lot with like traumatized kids, not all

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of. Like everybody kind of responds to the events of their

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life differently, but a lot of us became like hyper

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independent. Some of us became hyper independent because we

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were number one, highly unsupervised, highly, highly

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unsupervised as children. Oh, my God. I always, I always jokingly

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say, I write about this in my memoir, and I say, you know, we

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weren't just highly unsupervised. We were like,

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fucking feral. We were like, feral, you know. So you had a

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bunch of, like, first of all, you had a bunch of young

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parents. I always call it like babies raising babies. That was

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kind of how it was. And a lot of times those quote, unquote

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babies, which were the adults, the parents, the Guardians,

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whatever, the people who are supposed to be taking care of

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us. You know, they were like working. We were like blue

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collar kids. They were either, like, working two jobs, three

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jobs, hustling on the side, or just off doing shit like, I

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mean, you know, I generation, they had to, like, do a

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commercial, like a public service a PSA, a public service

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announcement. You guys remember that sucker? And it was

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different celebrities, and they like Grace Jones and Andy Warhol

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and like, I'm trying to think there were a bunch of them. And

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they'd like, stare into the camera, and they'd be like, it's

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10pm Do you know where you I can't even get through it. It's

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so funny to me. It's 10pm Do you know where your children are?

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Here's the answer, no, most of them did not know where we were

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again because we were in feral we were just like running

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around. Okay, but the reason why I'm telling you all this is a

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lot of times we did not have good guidance. A lot of times we

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didn't always have people who were, like, teaching us or

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helping us or showing us. So we had to figure out a lot of stuff

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on our own. And because of that, we tended to become really like,

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like, talk about self help. We had to help ourselves quite a

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bit. We became vigilant, like, almost like, hyper, hyper

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independent. And in some ways, that can be a really powerful

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and beautiful thing, because we, like, we That's the original

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fafo, right? F, A, F, O, fuck around. Find out. We had to a

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lot of times. Find out the hard way, because nobody was telling

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us, like, Hey, you might not want to play on the train

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tracks. Like, hey, you might want to, might not want to drive

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over there and, like, buy drugs off that person you don't know.

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Like, hey, you might not want to, like, go do this thing. You

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know what I mean. So a lot of times we had to find out the

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hard

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way. But which can be valuable, right? Like, being really

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independent is a powerful thing. It is also when it leans too

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far, goes too far, it's like a trauma response, and you start

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to feel like that you cannot ask for help. Number one, because

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there's nobody there to actually help you. Number two, you don't

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want to when you get rewarded, that's another thing that

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happens is when you don't ask for a lot of help a lot of

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times, especially if you're in a family where there's already one

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sibling or one child who is challenged or sick or struggling

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or whatever's going on with them, and your parents might not

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have a lot in the tank left over, like for you or for your

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siblings or anybody else, right? So whatever, there's different

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circumstances. It could be. You could have grown up in an

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alcoholic household, or a drug, you know, drug use, whatever.

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There's 1000 ways where families, right, or parents or

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guardians, whoever you grew up with, you're in foster care,

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whatever. There just weren't people available to, like, walk

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you through some of the harder parts of things. And another

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thing that also happens in a lot of families, and especially, I

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know, for like, a lot of blue collar kids and kids I grew up

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with, you know, you would often feel shame for needing help,

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yeah, for if you you felt like you couldn't ask for help, and

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to ask for help made you look weak, made you sound weak. Now,

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it's one thing if you're asking for help, sometimes for physical

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things, like, like, Hey, I gotta move. And there's like, I only

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gotta, you know, I only got my little car, and I need help,

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like, those kinds of things. It's not necessarily that,

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although I have known people who would just go rent a U haul and

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like, you know, rather just like, and just try to do it all

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themselves, rather than ask for help, because a lot of times,

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you know that stigma of needing help, especially, especially

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emotionally and mentally. You know, it was okay to to ask

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people to help you, like, move a table, move a couch, like, do

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something like that, right? Because when things would be,

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quote, unquote, physically impossible, but to ask for help

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because you were struggling emotionally, to ask for help

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because you were struggling, you know, mentally, a lot of times

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it was seen as a weakness. And what I love about this little

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passage, again, you know, in in meditations is it's just saying,

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Don't be ashamed to need help like a soldier storming a wall.

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You have a mission to accomplish, and if you've been

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wounded and you need a comrade to pull you up, so what? And I

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really. Relate this, like, if you've been wounded, like, yeah,

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maybe some shit went down in your childhood. Maybe some stuff

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happened to you as a young person, or as a young teenager,

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or young, you know, human being, where you weren't given

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everything that you needed. And that could literally be like the

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clothes on your back, food in your in your body. It could have

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been the protection that you needed. It could have been the

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education that you needed, the support that you needed, you

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know, there's a lot of ways that kids fell through cracks, you

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know, and still, still to this day, I'm not just saying, like,

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Oh, back then, that's how I can, you know, I always say, I tend

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to talk about my own experiences, because that's what

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I tend to be an expert on. Like, that's what I tend to, like,

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know about. And I don't assume that everybody has had the same

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experience as me, but I think a lot of us can relate, you know.

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And I think that this is prevalent, not just for, you

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know, blue collar kids, but also you see it in different

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populations, you know, where it can be hard for men to say, to

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admit, like, Hey, I'm struggling, or whatever, like,

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I'm having a hard time emotionally, you know, for a lot

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of for a lot of boys and men, you're not allowed, you're not

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allowed to, like, cry or have those feelings in some people's

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homes coming up, you know. And I really was, like, thinking about

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this, because this stigma of the stigma of like, asking for help

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makes you weak, or you should be ashamed. And I started thinking

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about how, like, when you're born, right? When you're like,

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born into this little body, you cannot feed yourself, you cannot

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clothe yourself, you cannot, like, get around on your own.

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You know, you, you, you are totally helpless. You cannot

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verbalize other than to cry, right? You cannot verbalize your

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wants, your needs, like your suffering, like, I've got a wet

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diet. All you can do is, like, cry, but like, you're completely

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helpless. We didn't know how to do jack shit as a baby, except,

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like, stick our feet in our own mouths and like, you know, make

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faces and, you know, and poop in a diaper. Like, that's what we

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knew how to do, right? So from the time we were little kids, we

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needed help, and we could ask for help. Like, think about it,

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we didn't know how to ride bikes, we didn't know how to tie

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our own shoes. We didn't know how to make, like, a sandwich.

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Like, we didn't know how to do things. We didn't know how to

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sew or cook or do laundry or drive a car or, like, think

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about the gazillion things that we didn't know how to do when we

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were little kids, when we were young, when we were babies, and

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how much help we needed, not only how much help we needed,

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how much help we probably got. I'm not saying they were

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perfect. I'm not saying our parents were perfect, but how

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much help we kind of did. We learned how to button a button.

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We learned how to zip a zip up. We learned how to like, you

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know, walk to school. We learned how to like, you know, read a

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book. Not everybody, but a lot of us, you know what I mean. So

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we got, like, a shit ton of help. So we were also, though,

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encouraged. We were often encouraged by teachers. Like, if

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you don't know something, raise your hand. Let me help you,

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right? That's a whole profession of like tudas. What do you think

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tutas Are? Tutors are designed to, like, help kids who are

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struggling with a particular subject, you know? And when you

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just still look around you people in my profession, what I

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call the helping professions, right? The service professions.

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We're here. I always say, if everybody figured everything out

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on their own, if everybody was doing fantastic, like, I

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wouldn't have a job, you know, I wouldn't be teaching yoga if

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everybody knew how to do it and do it fantastically and didn't

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need help. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't be a

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spiritual mentor. I wouldn't be an integrative coach. I wouldn't

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be doing any of these things if nobody needed help. And so I

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want to, kind of like normalize this, for us to get out of this,

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this old limitation, like limiting mindset, that that it's

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weak somehow to ask for help. And I think we're kind of like,

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sold this load of bullshit that, like, just because we're a

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certain age, or just because we've gone through a certain

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thing, we should, quote, unquote, know this already. We

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should know how to do these things, and sometimes we just

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need a little bit of help. Because, again, we have to go

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back to, like, the brain, right? And how the brain functions. The

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brain is always going to try to access, like, what's familiar.

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It's going to want to try and, like, do things based on what

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it's already experienced. You know, it goes it time travels.

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Obviously, it likes to time travel into the past and and

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just assign meaning to, like, the Oh, I know how this cup is

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going to be, I know how this chair is going to be, I know how

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this trip is going to be. I know how this person is going to be.

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Because I've interacted with them before. So it's always like

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looking for the familiar. It's not really, I think it's so

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fascinating how much we rely on on the brain. And a lot of times

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I will say to people like, Okay, here's the deal. Your your best

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thinking, like your number one, numero uno, like best thinking

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with your current brain is what got you here, right into

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trouble, into this suffering, into this pattern, into this

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habit, into this way of being like your best thinking. So if

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you want to do something different or novel or new or

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transformative or make change like what got you here is not

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going to get you there, and we need to bring in, sometimes, new

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resources, new tools, new teachers, new help is right. Who

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can you know, not boss you around and like, wag their

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finger and tell you like at you and tell you like what to do,

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but can certainly be a guide along the way, you know, and

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say, Hey, and I used to hate, like hate asking for help for a

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couple of reasons. Number one, I had that old stigma of like to

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ask for help is weak. Number two, right? Part of the ego and

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part of like, the pride of like, I like to do things on my own.

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Look how independent I am, look how capable I am, right? That

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felt good to be able to do that. Also, there's another thing that

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kind of happens with a lot of that kind of,

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you know, the upbringings that I came from in like, trauma, and I

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know other people again, double Amen hands, if you can relate to

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what I'm about to say is that you don't ever want to feel like

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a burden to somebody else. You don't want to feel like you're a

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bother or that you're bothering somebody else, right? That's one

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of the things, and it's also like risking rejection, like

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you're going to ask for help and somebody's going to say no. And,

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man, what that would do to like a kid like me back in the day,

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like I would just feel ashamed, first of all, for having to ask

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for help, and then if I allowed myself to be vulnerable and ask

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for help, and like, gotta know, oh my god. Like, back then, that

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would have just felt like I just inside, like I just got a little

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squishy, like, my hat, just like, squeezed a little bit

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thinking about, like, younger me, like, trying to be so brave,

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and, like, put down her Dukes, you know, and like, Vicky with

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2k from large is being like, Okay, I'm gonna ask for help,

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and if somebody, like, you know, wasn't nice to me about it, or

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made me feel stupid for needing help, or I felt ashamed. Like,

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why can't you figure this out? Like, how do you not already

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know how to do this? Right? That's the thing again, the mass

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hole thing, right? There's like, people talk about people from

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Boston and people from Massachusetts, like, they'll

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say, we're kind, but we're not nice, meaning we're kind. We'll

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help you. We'll do stuff for you. We'll literally give you

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the shirt off our back, but we're going to bust your balls

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the whole time we're doing it. We're going to make fun of you

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and be sarcastic and, you know, cheap shot you, and do all that

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stuff. And I'm like, Oh my god. So like, a lot of times, your

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vulnerability, you know, I always say, when you we when we

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would have tender places as a kid, you would think that

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another human being would recognize that it's a tender

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place, so that they would tread lightly and it's no they would

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find your tender place, and they would find, like, noogie it, you

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know, like they would go for it. So there's kind of like this

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built in protective measure across the board, for a lot of

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people, where they're expected, they feel like they're expected

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to know so many things. And I remember, you know, I remember,

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like, back even, even as a my mother, like, I got, I got my

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sex talk pretty young. I think I was, like, six years old. And so

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I also learned all about menstruation and girls having

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their period, and, like, the whole thing, which I totally

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dreaded, like I totally dreaded. And, you know, my mother, I

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think, taught me about, like, I know she did. She taught me

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about, like, maxi pads and whatever, and said, like, there

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were, you know, other things, like tampons, whatever, Playtex,

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Kotex, all the different brands. But she died before I ever used

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a tampon. And I remember I did not want to ask my sister to

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show me how to do it. I wasn't going to ask my aunt. I was

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like, nope, right? Like, and so I had to figure it out on my

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own. And I'll never forget that whole experience. You know, it's

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like, you don't know what size to buy, like, you have to go to

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the store and, like, get them, and you get then you get to go

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and, like, figure it out, and the string and the whole thing.

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I'm sure somebody out there is laughing right now, because you

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too, you too, had to figure it out on your own. But then I

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helped other girlfriends who also had, who were also feral,

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who were also highly unsupervised, right? Who didn't

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want to wear maxi pads like you know, again, I'm not bagging on

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any. Anybody who that was your preference, or whatever. Just

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for me, it was not my preference. So I apologize for

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making it. But for me, it was just like, No. But I also had

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to, like, help them. And one of the things that I try to remind

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myself all the time as a reminder, obviously, for my tone

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of voice with other people like I never want people to feel

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ashamed for not knowing things. I want to reward curiosity and I

Karen Kenney:

want to reward courage and vulnerability when somebody like

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doesn't know how something works or doesn't understand something,

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and it's so easy to be flippant, right? I know I've done it. I

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know I've been quote, unquote guilty of this before in my

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past, and I really try to be mindful these days, because I

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had to reform my own thinking about like, it's okay that I

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don't know how to do everything. It's okay that I might need a

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like, you know, a reminder on how to like, you know, do

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something, you know, and in this world where everything is

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becoming increasingly, like, more technical, I've just

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accepted, I always say, the older I get, the more that I

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realize that, like, it just becomes painfully aware to me,

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like, just how much I don't know. So I am willing to take a

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book out, or to buy a book or to read an article or to Google

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something, but sometimes it just hits a point when you're like, I

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need another human being to sit down with me and to walk me

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through this, to talk me through this, to show me how they

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approach this thing. Preferably, I always say like, again with

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Marcus Aurelius, right in meditations. I'm like, when

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smarty pants people are saying smarty pants things, I am smarty

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pants enough to pay attention and to listen, right? So I try

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to, like, go to, you know, somebody who I feel like has

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been successful in doing this thing before me, or a friend who

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I think is pretty smart, and I'm like, maybe we can figure this

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out together. And that's the thing, like, where my work comes

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in. You know, it's like, I kind of like, through my own desire

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to end my own suffering, and as long as we're human, there's

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gonna be suffering, right? I mean, we cannot eradicate all

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suffering, however, we can gather some tools and some

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perspectives and some resources to help us as we're navigating

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these things, so we're not suffering as much. And I know

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for myself along the way. You know, I had some teachers, and I

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certainly had a shit ton of books that really, really,

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really helped me, but it was that human connection, the

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intimacy of another person being with me and talking with me and,

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you know, helping me to see again, to shift my mind, maybe

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from a perspective of fear to one of love, you know, to gather

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different tools. And it's why, you know, when people say to me,

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like, what do you do? I'm like, Oh my gosh. Like, I do so many

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things. I've gathered a lot of tools from a lot of different

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traditions and a lot of different what do we even?

Karen Kenney:

Modalities, even, because I wanted I needed help physically,

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somatically, I needed help spiritually, right? I needed

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help. You know, in my subconscious, like reprogramming

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my subconscious, I needed help with practical neuroscience,

Karen Kenney:

right, patterns and habits and being able to like interrupt the

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way that that my brain would like was going down habit road

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all the time, as my teacher, Melissa tears, says, right. So I

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wanted to be able to help myself mentally, emotionally,

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physically and spiritually. And that's where, like all the

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different things that I, you know, trained in and studied and

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practiced, and now also teach and share with my clients, my

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one to one clients who, you know, join me in the quest. And

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then also my membership people, my beautiful nesties, as I call

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them, my group coaching program. The nest is passing these things

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down, and that's the beautiful thing is once you just admit,

Karen Kenney:

like, I don't know everything, and I do need help, and let go

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of the shame, and let go of the story, and let go of this idea

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that you now, just because you're an adult, you're supposed

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to know how to do everything. And this is the thing, like this

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bot, I always say, like as human beings, right? Like moving

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through the world in this body, with this brain, with our life

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experiences and stuff, we're operating heavy machinery, and

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like nobody gave us the manual. So why should we be surprised

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that we need help, and why should we feel bad about it, or

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talk down to ourselves or see ourselves as less than it's a

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really powerful thing to ask for help. And my hope for you, you

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know, I look at like I look but first of all, my hope for you is

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that you receive good help when you ask for it, that nobody like

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you know, makes you feel stupid because of it. Um. That you are

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met with kindness and openness, and that your curiosity and your

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desire to change, to transform, to grow, to learn, to better

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yourself, right? Is met with enthusiasm and encouragement,

Karen Kenney:

because otherwise, like you know, if anybody's trying to

Karen Kenney:

tear you down or try to make you feel stupid because you need

Karen Kenney:

help with something. Here. They can suck it in a bucket. You

Karen Kenney:

know what I'm saying? Like them, move on. Find somebody else,

Karen Kenney:

because they're not your people. Okay, so I also, you guys know,

Karen Kenney:

Marita and I do a lot of daily reading. I have like, a bunch of

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what you can call them daily devotionals. You can just call

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them daily books, read books that I read on the daily that

Karen Kenney:

are literally, you know, broken down. It'll say, like, June,

Karen Kenney:

whatever. June, 14, June, 16, June, whatever. May this,

Karen Kenney:

whatever. Okay, so some of you may know who Ryan Holiday is,

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and Ryan Holiday, I had just read to you about meditations

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Marcus Aurelius, right? This is like, he's known as one of like,

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the Stoics and philosophers of stoicism. And so I also read the

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Daily stoic. And this is 366

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meditations on wisdom, perseverance in the art of

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living. And Ryan Holiday, this is his book. He and Steven

Karen Kenney:

Hanselman wrote this. But what was awesome is when I was

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flipping through this and reading this, the reading for

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Marcus Aurelius, 7.7 which I shared with you earlier, came

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came up right? Don't be ashamed of needing help. And I also want

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to share with you something that Ryan said, because it's right in

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line with what what's been on my hat, and it made me smile the

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whole time I read it. He says, so he starts with the quote from

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Marcus Aurelius, right, the stoic quote. And then he says,

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no one ever said you were born with all the two tools you'd

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need to solve every problem you'd face in life. In fact, as

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a newborn, you were practically helpless. Yes, someone helped

Karen Kenney:

you then, and you came to understand that you could ask

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for help. It was how you knew you were loved. Isn't that so

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nice? And then he goes on to say, well, you are still loved.

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You can ask anyone for help. You don't have to face everything on

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your own. If you need help, comrade, just ask. And I love

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that, right? It's like, and this has been the hot beat, not from

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this. I mean, this was something I've been talking about long

Karen Kenney:

before I read this book. But nobody can do the work for you,

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right? Whatever the thing is that you need help with, whether

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it's like, you know, getting out of your own way, or like, you

Karen Kenney:

know, trying to, trying to make your way through. You know your

Karen Kenney:

lack of self worth, your lack of self love, the struggle that you

Karen Kenney:

have, you know, in your relationships within yourself,

Karen Kenney:

the spiritual struggles, the mental struggles, the emotional

Karen Kenney:

struggle. You know all this stuff you know you don't have to

Karen Kenney:

nobody can do that work for you, but you don't have to do it on

Karen Kenney:

your own. And having somebody that walks along beside you is a

Karen Kenney:

game changer. It's a game changer. It has been true in my

Karen Kenney:

life. It has been true in the lives of my clients. It's been

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true in the lives of people that I know, who I've coached, but

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also other people and friends who have that I know, who have

Karen Kenney:

also had their own coaches, their own mentors, their own

Karen Kenney:

teachers, their own help is, you know what I mean. So I guess I

Karen Kenney:

just kind of want to normalize this for you, because I think

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we've been sold a bill of goods, sometimes from our families,

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sometimes from teachers, right? Sometimes from coaches,

Karen Kenney:

sometimes from elders, sometimes from whoever your siblings,

Karen Kenney:

whatever your environment, that we're supposed to have it all

Karen Kenney:

figured out, and we're somehow stupid because we don't. And

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look, I'm the person in every lecture, in every class. I'm

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going to ask, like, a gazillion questions, and I'm going to ask

Karen Kenney:

until I understand, because I don't. I no longer feel bad

Karen Kenney:

about not knowing things or needing help. And it has been so

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freeing for me to be able to just raise my hand and be like,

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Yeah, I don't get it. Or, Hey, can you show me that again? Or

Karen Kenney:

that pot one, like, okay, I get Pat one, but like, Pat two, you

Karen Kenney:

lost me. Or, can you please help me to understand how to do this?

Karen Kenney:

And look, I'm just gonna say this because I see it, I just

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see it, I just see it. I just see it. I'm grabbing my face. If

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you're not watching this, you can probably hear it in my

Karen Kenney:

voice. Chat, GPT is not your new coach. Chat, GPT is not your new

Karen Kenney:

spiritual mentor. It will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever be

Karen Kenney:

able to replace the hat and the intimacy of human connection.

Karen Kenney:

It's never going to be able to replace somebody being able to

Karen Kenney:

look you right in the eye as you tell your story, as you pour out

Karen Kenney:

your soul, and as you ask for help, and the other person says,

Karen Kenney:

I'm here. I've got you. I've got your back. John. That GTP can

Karen Kenney:

give you all kinds of information, but as my beautiful

Karen Kenney:

friend Mary Ann C says, information does not heal.

Karen Kenney:

Intimacy heals, and we need that hat to hat. We need that face to

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face. We need that human connection. And even books like

Karen Kenney:

books can be great, but let me tell you something. I can read

Karen Kenney:

something in a book, and there are people who learn

Karen Kenney:

fantastically from just reading, and I know like that's I learn

Karen Kenney:

in different ways, as well as, like, reading, but being able to

Karen Kenney:

do something alongside somebody, somebody who can really see us

Karen Kenney:

and acknowledge our brilliance, but is also not afraid to call

Karen Kenney:

us out on our bullshit, and to say, Hey, I'm seeing a pattern

Karen Kenney:

here, like, hey, what about this? You know, it's not going

Karen Kenney:

to be it's like, humans can't be replaced in that way. You know,

Karen Kenney:

chat GPT can't give you a hug. Chat GPT can't, like, hold your

Karen Kenney:

hand while you're crying. Do you know what I'm saying? Chat GPT

Karen Kenney:

can't see you. It's just so take that for what you will. I don't

Karen Kenney:

think that the quality and the caliber of that kind of

Karen Kenney:

information is ever going to replace human tenderness and

Karen Kenney:

human grace. And you know, having a human mentor or a coach

Karen Kenney:

who's gone before and knows kind of where these places are. Yeah,

Karen Kenney:

information will only get you so far, I guess, is what I'm trying

Karen Kenney:

to say. So if you're somebody who's been a little afraid to

Karen Kenney:

ask for help, I hope that this, in some way, is going to give

Karen Kenney:

you the courage, maybe a little motivation or inspiration, to

Karen Kenney:

say, You know what? I don't have to figure everything out on my

Karen Kenney:

own. I'm not expected to know how everything in the world

Karen Kenney:

works. You know, there's a reason why all those books, how

Karen Kenney:

things work like, exist, because we don't know, you know what I

Karen Kenney:

mean, like, You're not expected to know how to change a tie

Karen Kenney:

without having ever done one before. You're not expected to

Karen Kenney:

know how to like, like, you know, not a tie. If you're a

Karen Kenney:

young person who wants to wear, you know, or anybody who wants

Karen Kenney:

to wear a tie, like, if nobody taught you how to shave, if

Karen Kenney:

nobody taught you, like, you know, how to, you know, operate

Karen Kenney:

a lawn mower, or whatever it is, things that might seem really

Karen Kenney:

simple and basic to another person if you've never been

Karen Kenney:

exposed to it. How should you know how to do it? How should

Karen Kenney:

you know how to be in a relationship where there's

Karen Kenney:

intimacy and deep emotional, excuse me, conversations and

Karen Kenney:

connections, if you've never had it before, if it was never

Karen Kenney:

mirrored for you, if it was never if it was never played out

Karen Kenney:

in front of you, if you never saw a healthy marriage, how are

Karen Kenney:

you supposed to know how to do it? If your parents all they did

Karen Kenney:

was scream and yell at each other, how are you supposed to

Karen Kenney:

learn maybe it became painful enough, and you decided I'm

Karen Kenney:

never going to do that like I'm going to be a person who, like,

Karen Kenney:

talks about my feelings rather than screams, you know, or

Karen Kenney:

whatever, maybe. But we get so conditioned as young people. We

Karen Kenney:

are literally being hypnotized all the time as young people,

Karen Kenney:

you know. And it gets in there, it gets in there, and sometimes

Karen Kenney:

we need help and support breaking those patterns, and one

Karen Kenney:

of those patterns and habits is believing that it's not okay to

Karen Kenney:

ask for help. So let's destigmatize this. Let's unchain

Karen Kenney:

this, and know that you know you are loved and that you are

Karen Kenney:

smart, and there are people who want to help you, and you're not

Karen Kenney:

expected to know how to do everything you know, and I try

Karen Kenney:

to remind my clients of this all the time. A lot of things were

Karen Kenney:

not demonstrated to us and how to do things in a healthy way,

Karen Kenney:

or in a way that is in a way that is moving us in the

Karen Kenney:

direction of how we actually want to be and how we actually

Karen Kenney:

want to feel. You know, we just have, sometimes have an old,

Karen Kenney:

rusty set of tools. We need new ones, and that's okay. And there

Karen Kenney:

are people out there who want to help you, and there are people

Karen Kenney:

out there that you can hire to help you, to walk along beside

Karen Kenney:

you, and there's no shame with that too. You know, sometimes we

Karen Kenney:

think, Well, I have friends and I have family members. You know

Karen Kenney:

that? You know I should be able to ask them, Well, I love you.

Karen Kenney:

And sometimes our friends are like, knuckleheads, like,

Karen Kenney:

sometimes they are not the ones. A lot of times, your friends are

Karen Kenney:

just going to agree with you, and they're going to yes you,

Karen Kenney:

and they're going to be like, yeah, you have every right to be

Karen Kenney:

mad because he did this and she did the it's like you need

Karen Kenney:

people in your life who are going to stop you and say, Hey,

Karen Kenney:

but yeah, it sounds like you don't really like whoever taught

Karen Kenney:

you how to forgive. Do you know what I'm saying? Some of the who

Karen Kenney:

taught you how to really love, who taught you how to express

Karen Kenney:

yourself, who taught you how to help your nervous system to feel

Karen Kenney:

more safety in the world. This is what I'm saying. There's so

Karen Kenney:

much we don't know, and if we can just accept it, and if we

Karen Kenney:

can be willing to try something new, and to say to ourselves,

Karen Kenney:

there must be a better way, and then to be open and receptive,

Karen Kenney:

to ask your in. Teacher right to ask your inner teacher, and then

Karen Kenney:

maybe an outer teacher somewhere to go help guide you. It can be

Karen Kenney:

life changing. It can be completely transformative. And I

Karen Kenney:

know because I'm living proof. So that's all I wanted to say

Karen Kenney:

today. Little Love Letter from my hat to yours, because I know

Karen Kenney:

what it's like trying to move through the world trying to

Karen Kenney:

figure it all out on your own. It's exhausting. It's

Karen Kenney:

exhausting. And you know, if you can find somebody where you feel

Karen Kenney:

safe enough to kind of put down your deuce, to lower your dukes

Karen Kenney:

and to lower that shield and to be vulnerable, it can be

Karen Kenney:

absolutely life changing. So I hope again, hope this is helpful

Karen Kenney:

in some way, and you can always find out the ways to work with

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me on my website. Karen kenney.com, I'm never shy about

Karen Kenney:

it. That's where to find me. It's easy. You'll see things for

Karen Kenney:

the nest and the quest and yoga and even how to use my tip, ja,

Karen Kenney:

how to join my email list so that you find out shenanigans

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and what's going on. I have some cool events actually, that I'm

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going to be doing in the next few months. So if you want to

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find out what those are like, get on my newsletter. Just Karen

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kenney.com/sign,

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up. Alright, you guys. Thank you so much for tuning in. Wherever

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you go, may you leave the animals and the people and the

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place in the environment, the planet in yourself better than

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how you first found it. Wherever you go, may you and your love

Karen Kenney:

and your presence and your energy and your willingness to

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ask for help be a blessing. Let me also say this because it just

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came to my head, and when spiritual team s, t, o, t, J,

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they hit me thing. Sometimes when we think we're being a

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burden to somebody else, right? If we don't ask for help, we are

Karen Kenney:

robbing the other person of an opportunity to also be your

Karen Kenney:

friend, to also be helpful. It feels really nice when you're

Karen Kenney:

able to help another person, and if we never ask for help, and if

Karen Kenney:

we insist on doing everything on our own, and if we don't allow

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other people to help us, we sometimes Rob other people of

Karen Kenney:

being able to also have that really satisfactory feeling of

Karen Kenney:

knowing that they did a kind thing or that they you know What

Karen Kenney:

I'm saying. So okay, just had to say that before I go. Okay, bye.

Karen Kenney:

Have a great rest of your night, your day, your week. Okay, much

Karen Kenney:

love you.

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About the Podcast

The Karen Kenney Show
Karen Kenney is a certified Spiritual Mentor, Writer, Integrative Change Worker, Coach and Hypnotist. She’s known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent, and her no-BS, down-to-earth approach to Spirituality and transformational work.

KK is a wicked curious human being, a life-long learner, and has been an entrepreneur for over 20 years! She’s also been a yoga teacher for 25 years, is a Certified Gateless Writing Instructor, and an author, speaker, retreat leader, and the host of The Karen Kenney Show podcast!

She coaches both the conscious + unconscious mind using practical Neuroscience, Subconscious Reprogramming, Integrative Hypnosis/Change Work, and Spiritual Mentorship.

These tools help clients to regulate their nervous systems, remove patterns, rewrite old stories, rewire in new beliefs, and reimagine what’s possible in their lives and business!

Karen encourages people to deepen their connection to Self, Source and Spirit in down-to-earth and actionable ways and wants them to have their own lived experience with spirituality and to not just “take her word for it”.

She helps people to shift their minds from fear to Love - using compassion, storytelling and humor. Her work is effective, efficient, memorable, and fun!

KK’s been a student of A Course in Miracles for close to 30 years, has been vegan for over 20 years, and believes that a little kindness can make a big difference.

KK WEBSITE: www.karenkenney.com

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Karen Kenney

Karen Kenney (KK) is a certified Spiritual Mentor, Writer, Hypnotist, Speaker, Change Worker and Coach. She’s known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent and her no-BS approach to Spirituality and transformational work.

She’s the host of The Karen Kenney Show podcast, plus she's been a yoga teacher for 24+ years, and is a Certified Gateless Writing Instructor.

A curious human being, life-long learner and an entrepreneur for 20+ years, KK brings a down-to-earth perspective to applying practical spiritual principles and brain science that create powerful shifts in people’s lives and businesses.

She works with people in her 1:1 program THE QUEST, and offers a collective learning experience via her online workshops and her in-person transformational retreats. She supports and shifts both the conscious and unconscious mind by combining practical tools from Neuroscience, Subconscious Reprogramming, Integrative Hypnosis, and Spiritual Mentorship - which help clients regulate their nervous systems, remove habituated blocks, rewrite old stories, rewire new beliefs, and reimagine what’s possible!

KK wants her clients to have their own lived experience with spirituality and to not just “take her word for it”. She encourages people to deepen their personal connection to Self, Source and Spirit in tangible, relatable, and actionable ways without losing sight of the magic!

Her process called: “Your Story To Your Glory” helps people to shift from an old thought system of fear to one of Love - using compassion, un-shaming, laughter and humor - her work is effective, efficient, and it’s also wicked fun!

KK’s been a student of A Course in Miracles for close to 30 years, has been vegan for over 20 years, and believes that a little kindness can make a big difference.

You can learn more & connect with KK at: www.karenkenney.com